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WE SEE IMPROPER METERING, POOR LENS SELECTION, AND A TOTAL LACK OF COMPOSITION. |
| The Question
Why, in an age of electronic wizardry,
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| Vision 1
G.T
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| Vision 2
I have to slow down
diliberatly setup the shoot. When looking at the ground glass upside down
and reversed I have to take in the whole picture edit out the parts I don't
want. (move camera, remove stuff, ect.) as I check the exposure, rechecking
3 or 4 times, I have to look at all the parts becoming more involved in the
scene. Becoming attached to the way it looks, smells, feels, and .... After
45 minutes of meditating and relaxing I go back to the darkroom eagerly
waiting to submerge the film in the developer. Which one? Do I need to
compensate or can I developr it normally. Thankfully I shot 2 sheets. It's
never asure thing with film. I can't just decide to remove a scratch or
dust. Sometimes burning or dodging doesn't do it. Then my only hope is to go
back and try it again. This time I'll get it right.
My friends don't understand why I shoot with a 8x10. And some don't even see
the difference from there $10 point and shoot and it. But that's okay I
don't understand why they want to sit in a chair looking at a screen all
day.
Just some unedited ramblings.
R.L
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| Vision 3
1.
Large
negatives 2.
Camera
movements 3.
A
tripod So, that was indeed simple. But I hear cries
from all quarters that my definition is either too strict, to complicated or
doesn’t encompass the format at all. I’ll first quell the anger of those who
find my interpretation too complicated. I understand that, technically, the camera
movements and tripod are not needed for large format photography. Linhofs,
Speed Graphics, Horsemans, a Cambo wide angle and even a Peter Gowland camera,
among others, have viewfinders, and can be used by hand. This cancels the
tripod. The Gowland didn’t have movements, yet it used 4x5 inch film, so
that cancels the movement requirement. So why do I include the tripod and
movement requirements. Let’s see. Large format photographers today chose
movements and a tripod because of the effects that they have on the format. The
quality of film being what it is today, medium format answers 90% of all the
hand held larger negative problems. Those few cases where the answer requires a
large format negative, the photographer can turn to one of those cameras
mentioned above to solve that particular hand held problem. We arrive back at the conundrum. Why, oh why,
if 35mm, medium format and the occasional large format can answer all the needs
of the photographer, do we use those unwieldy large format cameras, The ones
that only make our lives more difficult because we have to play with movements
and we have to carry a tripod to slow us down and make the work even more
difficult? In order to answer this I’ll stop writing about
photography and start in a totally unrelated subject. Sound recording. Now
that’s a kick in the butt. Why sound recording? Just try to stay with me as I
delve into the mind of an audio engineer as he sets up a microphone to record a
violin. He may have two microphones that are technically identical in the areas
of frequency response, signal to noise ratio and pickup pattern to name a few
examples. Why then, will he chose one over the other for this recording session?
Because the one microphone colors the
sound in a different manner than the other. It will have a warmer or colder
color, or a richer color. This seems insane as microphones can’t see light
waves, only audio waves. Just remember that the influence that the microphone
gives to the audio waves is felt as coloration in the recorded sound. Back to photography. I can’t use the term color
here as color is measurable in photography just as frequency response is in
audio. Even the abstract terms warm and cold have a definite meaning in
photographic colors. So what do I use here for a terminology. Hold on to your
hats. Flavor. Yes, flavor. And not the normal flavor terms such as object
specific taste. Apple flavor is a specific taste. Think about smooth, rich,
tangy, bright, wrong and heavy to name a few. Then go one step further to
include the misconceptions of young children as they confuse mouth feel with
flavor. Think of flavors like crunchy, soft, gritty and tough and you’ll begin
to be able to see how abstract this portion of flavor can be. At the beginning
of this paragraph I wrote ‘Back to photography’, and now we are ready. Prints from negatives have different feels that
can be described in flavors. Grain is either not there giving the print a
smooth tasting feel, somewhat there, giving the print a crunchy flavored feel,
or too much of an influence giving the print a gritty flavor feel. The moment
that we change from one to the other is the same as in flavor; it’s an
individually based feeling. My feeling about the gritty flavor comes sooner
than by other people so I want as little grain as possible in my photos. Here
is another flavor. 35 mm photography is also about taking pictures on the go.
This sometimes results in blurred photos. On other occasions the blur is
incorporated in the image as part of the statement. Blur is a type of smooth
flavor. It reacts like the smoothness of chocolate or raw oysters. Some people
like both, some none or only one. If you dislike one of the two or both, the
flavor of the blurred photo’s reacts in the same way that something that tastes
wrong will react. Lets look at some other flavors. Digital photos have a crunchy, bright flavor so
long as the pixels are not intruding on the picture, or the different types of
digital noise (JPEG compression artifacts, GIF color reduction effects) make
their presence known. When they do, the flavor becomes metallic, and has a
feeling of wood fiber. These two items are things that most people DON’T want
in their mouths. Large format prints have a pleasantly crunchy,
wonderfully smooth, favorite flavor feeling. They give people the start that
they need to be able to enjoy the whole meal. That’s what large format
negatives do. They give the viewer the chance to be able to see the subject of
the photo, become involved in the scene that first caught the photographer’s
eye, and find the statement that the photographer is trying to make. There were two other areas that were listed
above. I’ll begin with the third item. The tripod is used because the
photographer needs a stable platform for his camera while he or she is
composing the picture, and during the exposure because the aperture of the
large format lens is usually smaller than that of a 35 mm or middle format
camera, necessitating longer shutter times. The audio engineer uses tripods and wire
hangers to place his microphones. By using his experience and skill he can mike
the instrument to make it sound correct. The engineer takes quite a lot into
consideration when he makes these decisions. They are based upon the acoustics
of the room and the amount of people that are to be present, to name a two of
the variables. When he is done the engineer has a complete acoustic picture of
the room where the recording will take place. What are these to the large
format photographer? Movements. Movements allow the photographer to make use of
the Scheimpflug rule in order to place the depth of field plain where he or she
feels it to be correct, shift the lens minutely to obtain just the right
relationship between the foreground and the background, and adjust the back in
order to correct perspective problems or increase the repoussoir effect through
visual distortion. This composition takes place on the ground glass, upside
down and mirror reversed. The photographer uses this glass to compose the
image; the world outside the black cloth has ceased to exist while this
happens. Back to the audio engineer. He has used his
skill based on technical knowledge, experience and feeling to be able to mike
the instrument so that the music can be heard as interpreted by the musician
and performed with that person’s unique style. Just as the audio engineer must
make technical and aesthetic decisions in order to record music, the large
format photographer must be able to use the skill and technical experience to
build an image on the ground glass. Then, and only then can his or her personal
feelings be put into the photo. In both cases the person creating the recording
or photo must invest a large amount of time and experience into creating an
audio or visual image so that the viewer or listener is only required to listen
to or look at the image in order to enjoy hearing or seeing the result of all
that work. There is only one difference between the audio engineer and the large
format photographer. The engineer usually works together with a musician in
order to make the recording, while the large format photographer must be both. ©2002 R.C.B
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M.V
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| Vision 5
How
can I capture its essence and print it demonstrating these qualities in the
finished image? Above all, it brings a painterly process to photography.
Personally I enjoy participating in the rich provenance of creating
photographic images in a large format and then working with the papers, the
chemistry, and the controls. Lastly within the large format process there
is always chance that plays a role in creating a great image.
When
everything comes together there are so many variables and choices that one
makes, it is this process creates all images uniquely.
K.G
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| Vision 6
The desired image appaers in a condensed little viewfinder with the digital
camera, sometimes the LCD screen offers the photographer no information
outside in bright sunlight.
The LF camera offers no information either in bright sunlight outside, a
black cloth over my head suddenly brings a beauty on my groundglass that
stuns my eye and brain. To capture that image my way, with my hands, my
adjustments and my selection of lenses.
The thrill that I can make the image instead that an electronic
interpolation makes my image visible is far more rewarding.
I feel I am in control and I am the master of the image, not the battery
power of the digital camera.
R.v.d.V
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| Vision 7
Often it takes many return visits to a location before I find exactly
the right conditions to make the photograph I'd hoped for. Sometimes it
doesnt. I get it right the first and only time Im there. ("Kat, you were
there before in a prior life, I can tell by the photos..") Other times
I stumble on a perfect situation without warning and the challenge is to
capture this "time" before it disappears. Sometimes its just a change in
the light, a sudden rain, or a dusting of snow to make it special.
Sometime its out of sheer boredom with nothing else to do except lug
around tons of camera equipment in a knapsack, while riding a bicycle to
take some photos. The challenge then is to craft a final print that
conveys the sense of that particular moment.
Many months before purchasing a LF camera, I "retrogressed" to thirty or
forty favorite prints from my past, and, remembered the situation in
which each picture was made, I imagined taking the picture as if I had
to set up a tripod and a folding view camera. How many of my
best pictures would I have been able to take? The percentage was high. I
was undoubtedly justified in considering adding another format.
I also did the same exercise with photographs I didnt take but which I
admired and might desire to emulate. I was charmed by the quality of a
friends large format field camera work and hell bent on returning
to/progressing to.. a large format camera, for my own creativity, ever
since looking through and touching his. (it was those little levels on
the sides.... so virgo/libra perfect/balance.) ;)
So...While thinking about "giving it a try", John, I remembered the
first camera I looked through. It was my Dad's twin lens Rollicord,
(that I still use on occasion.) I had to be about 4 or 5 years old, and
the world was upside down and backwards. Still is. :)
C.S
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| Vision 8
At 7 years, I began with my father's Kodak "Tourister" 6x9. At 17 years I
worked part time for a local photographer learning the large format
techniques. Following the trends of the day, bought my first 36mm Kodak
Signet (still have it) primarily for color transparencies. At 22 years -
a Ziess Ikon Contax, and when the shutter became economically unrepairable,
a Nikon FM2 (still used).
Somehow color print and even transparency work was not satisfying
especially when referring to my very early work. Then it was back to the
future and large format. I began to display and sell (limited) work
locally. I now have total control of all aspects of the art except the
production of film and paper. Working with digital cameras and software
in my real profession of engineering, I gained a great respect for digital
technology. I could not have done my work (submarine sea trials) without
it. But when I got home I wanted to get as far from the crt and keyboard
as possible.
In November my brother-in-law brought his digital camera to visit.
Together we made a few images around the house. We deemed one particularly
attractive image of a group of roses (still hanging on in spite of the
season) worthy of manipulation and printing. My "old" 486 computer (circ.
1998) could not handle the initial download. My wife had just purchased a
new state-of-the-art Pentium-4, 128 Mb, scanner, color printer, bells and
whistles machine. It did the work - sort of. Eventually it produced a
gorgeous color print, but at a price.
Will my grandson be able to print the rose image in 2051?
Couple the above with the satisfaction of handling fine mechanical
devices and messing about with chemical formulae - that is the reason I
prefer large format "wet" photography. But I also intend to employ Nina's
computer soon to make masks and large format negatives for some
alternative
processes.
I love the smell of fixer in the morning. It smells
like...creativity!
Dr bob.
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| Vision 9
The first answer which comes to mind is because I am "old-fashioned" myself,
I am not that old but I am 43 and formed myself as a photographer in the
late seventies of last century. I mean, although I understand new methods I
am fundamentally linked to the expectations and dreams I had back then.
Photography has changed a lot but I still am on the path which I took at the
time.
It is amazing how progressive ideas become in different perspective almost
conservative. So, I guess: if the path I undertook many years ago was
projected, at the time, in the future; by staying on the same path I'll be,
I am afraid to say, at some stage, stuck in the past.
Is this bad or good? It depends on my attitude towards the new, if I let the
new live alongside the old, whether I partake or not to bot processes, I am
living the old keeping an open eye for the time I live in.
This is good because we don't need to take part to everything to appreciate
whatever this things are. It is also unavoidable to look at the past as a
form of a Proustian Recherche.
Some great people are able to renew themselves as the phoenix and be re-born
from time to time into a new creative life, most of us are already happy to
be able fulfill some aspirations , perfecting the movements, as if a Zen
research, finding new reasons of doing what we do in streamlining and
smoothening the old ways rather than exploring new ways every day.
I realize this things I wrote sound confusing but I never pretended to have
clarity among my goals here, I am just thinking aloud including you all in
my thinking.
I certainly know why I like large format. I like it because it is slow and
gives me the time to think, I like it because it is difficult and calls for
discipline which I wouldn't normally like in life but that I more than
willingly accept as part of the process. I like it because I am a snob and I
can't help that. I like it because the gear is beautiful and I like things
of beauty.
But if you really ask my: "Why do you do what you do ", I am afraid I
really have to say : " I don't know! Do you? "
A.M
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| Vision 10
LF is clearer because the negative records more information than smaller
formats and digital is not even in the same ball park. Digital is
another media separate from analog because the end result is not light
sensitive and is not as clear visually. The pixilated reproduction is
incapable of the truly continuous tone negative. So you can kiss clarity
good bye.
I take time and spend time exploring the angles of my subject. I will
return several times to see what else can be learned about that subject
in different light and weather conditions. It's like rewriting and
composing a theme. I have 600+ negatives from one project stored in
three binders. I would never throw any of these negatives out but
certainly do not have the storage necessary for digital images of this
magnitude.
Photography is personal and LF is hands on, I touch the film, the
camera, the lens, the holders, the paper, the chemistry and the mounting
of each print, this is personal from start to finish. Not a keyboard
and monitor and in the end still only getting what a machine can
duplicate.
This old dog knows some of the new tricks and just is not interested.
G.P
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Or, slow the culture down (ie: stop running from thing to thing) and you
might have a chance to gain people's attention to deliver your 'message'.
Related comment: Prior to around 1980 many Ferrari owners liked to work on
their toys and were proficient mechanics. Around 1980 there was a huge
transition to Ferrari owners who knew nothing of the mechanics and sought
the 'image' and 'status' that those cars supposedly radiated. The local
dealership loved to see mechanic/owners come in to place orders for parts
because they could talk 'mano a mano', as it were. There was some perceived
level of appreciation between all parties. The new breed of Ferrari owner
had no such appreciation for the things they'd just paid huge sums of money
for and would say stupid things like "It's broke. Fix it. I'll be by to
pick it up later today..." This story was related to me when I lived in
Hollywood in the early '80's.
C.M.P
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In a time of "smaller, faster, cheaper",
where is "best"? Additionally, I enjoy the esthetic of the fine wood of
the camera, and the challenge of having to work carefully, both in the
darkroom and in the field, to get the image that I want.
Ansel Adams
said in an interview that if photographers had to work as hard at making
a print as a painter or sculptor, there might be a higher quality of
work being done. The challenge of the medium is what can lead to better
work. In this way it is like setting a basketball goal at 5 feet high so
that everyone can dunk.
There is something to be said for the
old-fashioned work ethic leading to achievement. This is in no way
intended to denigrate the difficulty of working with a digital camera or
the challenges of Photoshop--both require effort and present a
challenge.
I just feel that for the images I want to make, the 8x10
contact print is the way to go.
M.C.D
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First, to be clear, I'll define Large Format photography as *employing* sheet film,
(generally having) front lens movements, and a medium at least 4" x 5" in size. This will
include the greatest amount of equipment to suit the thoughts below.
You used the phrase "in an age", which reveals a way of thinking. It's a common assumption
of our modernity that newer is better; that all who don't adopt the newer methods are
Luddites; that time determines both truth and value.
In some aspects, certainly not in all aspects, Large Format photography provides a creative
venue that its artistic predecessor, canvas painting, does not: An impression of reality is
captured with amazing detail.
In the same way, the single image, image size, and mechanism's movements available provide
other significant advantages over its smaller-format counterparts. Shift, tilt,
frame-by-frame exposure options, and so much more, allow gathering onto the medium more of
exactly what the photographer desires.
Certainly Large Format lacks in the convenience of its roll-film counterparts as well as the
creativity of canvas painting. It remains in the middle niche, allowing for more some
unique advantages that are unconquerable by either. In that it will remain.
I intentionally used the term "medium" instead of "film". Even with a digital back, the
mechanical and detail facilities remain, with their subsequent advantages. Lafge Format
will certainly adjust (not evolve) with the changing medium technologies. It will remain
Large Format, no matter what the medium. (As a parallel analogy: Just as with changes in
the tool requirements for making a living, some Amish have telephones in the barn and use
power tools in furniture construction. Yet their lifestyle is still distinctive--they are
still Amish.)
Is Large Format better than either of the other two? At what it can accomplish, there's no
question.
C.B
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| Vision 14
You are really cruel, when I could just use PhotoShop, steal a few images off
the internet, manipulate them in the computer, add a tree, fix the waistline,
add a highlight here, some texture screen there, change the colors, and spit it
out on the printer in 5 minutes flat... And some 15 year old with pimples could
do it even faster...
But, the cruelest thing of all would be to force me to hang that piece of
photoshop garbage on my wall and have to look at it..
Hypo
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G.F
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Then the joy as I illuminate the
processed negative and see the small nuances of tone and detail that I have
created my knowledge of light and chemistry have given me an image that will
go on to give me more joy when I see the negative turn to a positive image
of what I first saw, it gives a feeling of achievement that can not be
obtained by modern cameras that do what some one in Japan thinks is correct
nor by any automated digital transfer of dots.
K.N
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| Vision 17
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| Vision 18
It is like fine wine - mature, sweet and lovable . Also profoundly satisfying to him whom has
practiced it. ( Nevertheless I do believe newcomers will be scarce, Photoshop can wreck havoc on
scanned -usually- unparralel vanishing lines). Its a question of the "instant gratification" society. Fast
and more or less..., or a sense of being alive. A poster cmyk repro or a fine print- it's all in the touch.
Then again I play around with Platinum... over 120 years old... besides lugging around batteries is
not my way of "peace of mind". Digital LF, fine, but it is not instant, at least between a couple of
seconds and fractions... maybe the future will have it's strongholds... it is a choice. Vision, that all
important inside word, will be impared, and to those few that this will not be a handicap will still be
using LF techniques,and ways of doing, no doubt, but you will have to master still another craft- and
lug around with it. I for one enjoy new tools and new opportunities, still high quality- very high quality is
the domain of LF whether in silver or pixels, and only in LF.
" Let the world shout said the Alchemist,
listen to your heart....
G.B
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| Vision 19
Sometime during the '60s, after being out of photography for a few years, I
got "hooked" again. I commenced the 35 mm journey with some medium format
thrown in for variety. All this time I kept a 2 1/4 darkroom and a B22
enlarger. This "camara collecting" lasted to the early '90s. All this time,
I was remembering my Crown Graphic days. Finally, I bit the bullet and went
back to a 4x5 cameras and darkroom.
Why bother? Well, simply put, it is what photography is all about. Now I can
get lost in the picture and not the equipment. Fussing with a cranky
bellows, trying to remember whether or nt I put the dark slide in correctly
or not, and in general all the things that must be done to get an exposure.
These are the things that work for me.
I could ramble on for hours but I am sure that not whet you wanted. I'll cut
this short as my eyes are not too good and it bothers me to type a lot.
J.A
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| Vision 20
I must admit that the technique of LF photography looks obsolete if you
compare it to the speed and ease of, say, digital photography. But it only
looks like that, and only to uncustomed eye...
When I show my prints, people very rarely ask me about my camera or other
technical aspects.
When they look at my photographs they are so taken by the subject that they
usually forget that it is only a two dimensional image they are looking at
(if I have succeeded)!
Large format slows me down, gives a chance to check and recheck everything
there is at the groundglass. I can observe the groundglass image with both
eyes at the same time while keeping my hands behing my back, or sitting
comfortably.
It is so slow to rig the camera that when I'm finally ready to expose, I can
have a luxurious moment of discipline and help my model to relax more, or I
can wait for better light if I'm outdoors. Time works with me, not against
me. Isn't that something?
One drawback I have to mention - the LF images have such a quality that
whatever you do, the next step always degrades some of that quality, be it
scanning, printing, or any other means of translating those unbearably
beautiful tonal values to another media.
T.R
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